[SBE16-Seattle] [EAS-WA] [SECC-WA] SRN RELAY

Tue Jan 14 17:17:54 PST 2020

I tried a similar model, if not the same one.  It was constantly nailed by
intermod.  A scanner might work fine in an RF congested location with a
bandpass cavity in front of it. For the cost of a cavity, perhaps a better
radio can be had.

On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 4:31 PM John Price via EAS-WA <eas-wa at sea.sbe16.org>
wrote:

> Very interesting Jim. When did KARR last successfully decode a test sent
> via the SRN?
>
> John Price
>
> Chair
>
> Mason/Thurston LECC
>
>
>
> *From:* SBE16-Seattle <sbe16-seattle-bounces at sea.sbe16.org> *On Behalf Of
> *Jim Dalke via SBE16-Seattle
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 14, 2020 3:43 PM
> *To:* 'Casey Jordan' <caseyj at kxly.com>; 'Casey Jordan via EAS-WA' <
> eas-wa at sea.sbe16.org>; 'K7CR' <k7cr at blarg.net>; 'Gabriel Parmley' <
> gabep at localtel.com>; 'EAS Washington State' <eas-wa at sbe16.org>
> *Cc:* 'SBE Chapter 16 Members and Others' <sbe16-seattle at sbe16.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [SBE16-Seattle] [SECC-WA] [EAS-WA] SRN RELAY
>
>
>
> I have had great success using the Uniden BC355 series scanners.
>
> You can buy them on Amazon for less than $100 new.
>
> I am currently using three of them without any failures for my KARR Sage
> Endec:
>
> NWS 162.550, SRN 155.475, and LRN 450.0875.
>
> All three sit neatly side by side on a 19” rack tray.
>
> The external audio in the back connects directly to the Sage Digital Endec
> Audio In at the correct level.
>
> The audio level is easily adjusted from the volume control while watching
> the audio level bars on the Endec Web .
>
> To set the levels on SRN and LRN, simply set the BC355 to unsquelch and
> set the audio level on the noise.
>
> For an antenna, I use a cheap discone antenna with a cable coax splitter
> to feed all three.
>
> While the impedances are not perfectly matched, the losses are negligible.
>
> Also, unlike some scanners, this one does not loose it’s settings on power
> loss.
>
> [image: cid:image001.png at 01D5CA64.2937F0D0]
>
> Jim Dalke
>
> KARR AM 1460, FM 98.5
>
>
>
> *From:* SECC-WA <secc-wa-bounces at sea.sbe16.org> *On Behalf Of *Casey
> Jordan via EAS-WA via SECC-WA
> *Sent:* Monday, January 13, 2020 5:18 PM
> *To:* K7CR <k7cr at blarg.net>; 'Gabriel Parmley' <gabep at localtel.com>; 'EAS
> Washington State' <eas-wa at sbe16.org>
> *Cc:* 'SBE Chapter 16 Members and Others' <sbe16-seattle at sbe16.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [SECC-WA] [EAS-WA] [SBE16-Seattle] SRN RELAY
>
>
>
> They will work ok if the audio is from a discriminator tap and amplified
> before feeding into the EAS decoder.
>
>
> CJ
>
>
>
> *From:* EAS-WA <eas-wa-bounces at sea.sbe16.org> *On Behalf Of *K7CR via
> EAS-WA
> *Sent:* Monday, January 13, 2020 12:20 PM
> *To:* 'Gabriel Parmley' <gabep at localtel.com>; 'EAS Washington State' <
> eas-wa at sbe16.org>
> *Cc:* 'SBE Chapter 16 Members and Others' <sbe16-seattle at sbe16.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [EAS-WA] [SBE16-Seattle] [SECC-WA] SRN RELAY
>
>
>
> Hi Gabe –
>
>
>
> Scanners are, typically, not the best receivers for this purpose –
>
> If you would consider an alternative – let me know as I have
>
> Some additional data for you
>
>
>
> Be sure and check the audio level going into your EAS Decocoder.
>
>
>
> Clay Freinwald
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Gabriel Parmley <gabep at localtel.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, January 13, 2020 9:03 AM
> *To:* K7CR <k7cr at blarg.net>; 'EAS Washington State' <eas-wa at sbe16.org>
> *Cc:* 'SBE Chapter 16 Members and Others' <sbe16-seattle at sbe16.org>
> *Subject:* RE: [SBE16-Seattle] [EAS-WA] [SECC-WA] SRN RELAY
>
>
>
> I’ve been working with Larry at WSP to troubleshoot our problem with
> receiving the SRN from Burch Mountain. Since two others have been able to
> decode from the SRN recently, I am bypassing our current radio scanner
> again and monitoring with alternate equipment tomorrow for further
> verification.
>
>
>
> Unfortunately, I won’t be able to make it to the meeting tomorrow morning,
> but I will provide an update after further testing.
>
>
>
> Gabe Parmley
>
> *Video Engineer*
>
> Office: (509) 888-8888
>
> Direct: (509) 888-9250
>
> *gabep at localtel.com <gabep at localtel.com>*
>
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>
>
> *From:* K7CR [mailto:k7cr at blarg.net <k7cr at blarg.net>]
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 2, 2020 8:41 PM
> *To:* Gabriel Parmley <gabep at localtel.com>; 'EAS Washington State' <
> eas-wa at sbe16.org>
> *Cc:* 'SBE Chapter 16 Members and Others' <sbe16-seattle at sbe16.org>
> *Subject:* RE: [SBE16-Seattle] [EAS-WA] [SECC-WA] SRN RELAY
>
>
>
> Thanks for the report, Gabe –
>
>
>
> It appears that the State Relay Network is in need of serious attention.
>
>
>
> This will be on the agenda at the SECC Meeting –
>
> Jan 14th at 930 – Hope you can join us in person or by phone.
>
> Your report, heard by others, will be helpful
>
>
>
> Clay Freinwald
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* SBE16-Seattle <sbe16-seattle-bounces at sea.sbe16.org> *On Behalf Of
> *Gabriel Parmley via SBE16-Seattle
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 02, 2020 1:28 PM
> *To:* 'EAS Washington State' <eas-wa at sbe16.org>
> *Cc:* 'SBE Chapter 16 Members and Others' <sbe16-seattle at sbe16.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [SBE16-Seattle] [EAS-WA] [SECC-WA] SRN RELAY
>
>
>
> KWCC (Apple Valley TV) has not received the SRN from Burch Mountain
> recently.
>
>
>
> However, we monitor our Local Primary KPQ AM and KPQ FM as well as
> National Weather Service and have received the regular RWT and RMT. They
> all use the same antenna, but when the Burch Mountain SRN relay was
> repaired this Summer, we noticed significantly low quality audio on two
> separate scanners for the SRN only. Previous to the Burch Mountain SRN
> issue and repair, we were receiving SRN messages. However, the NPT was
> received by KPQ August 7th, 2019 and we received their forwarded message.
>
>
>
> I’m not sure if anything can be done to improve the quality of the Burch
> Mountain SRN, but we have no issues receiving KPQ or NWS on FM with the
> same antenna (NWS broadcast from Burch Mountain as well).
>
>
>
> Gabe Parmley
>
> *Video Engineer*
>
> Office: (509) 888-8888
>
> Direct: (509) 888-9250
>
> *gabep at localtel.com <gabep at localtel.com>*
>
> *www.localtel.com
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>
>
> *From:* EAS-WA [mailto:eas-wa-bounces at sea.sbe16.org
> <eas-wa-bounces at sea.sbe16.org>] *On Behalf Of *K7CR via EAS-WA
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 2, 2020 9:47 AM
> *To:* 'Casey Jordan' <caseyj at kxly.com>; 'K7CR via EAS-WA' <
> eas-wa at sea.sbe16.org>; 'EAS Washington State' <eas-wa at sbe16.org>
> *Cc:* 'SBE Chapter 16 Members and Others' <sbe16-seattle at sbe16.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [EAS-WA] [SECC-WA] SRN RELAY
>
>
>
> Thanks Casey –
>
>
>
> From what I have seen, thus far, the ONLY stations reporting they received
> this is KXLY in Spokane and
>
> The Alpha Stations in Wenatchee.
>
>
>
> ALL HANDS –
>
>
>
> Please check your EAS logs and let us know whether your received this test
> from the NWS Seattle.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Clay Freinwald
>
>
>
> *From:* Casey Jordan <caseyj at kxly.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 02, 2020 9:40 AM
> *To:* K7CR <k7cr at blarg.net>; K7CR via EAS-WA <eas-wa at sea.sbe16.org>; EAS
> Washington State <eas-wa at sbe16.org>
> *Cc:* SBE Chapter 16 Members and Others <sbe16-seattle at sbe16.org>
> *Subject:* RE: [SECC-WA] [EAS-WA] SRN RELAY
>
>
>
> KXLY Group (Spokane/Mt Spokane TX) received:
>
>
>
> Ignored
>
> 01/01/20 12:06:54
>
> Required Weekly Test, Received on Monitor 2.
> The National Weather Service has issued a Required Weekly Test for Kitsap,
> WA, Snohomish, WA, Pierce, WA, and King, WA beginning at 12:00 pm Wed Jan 1
> and ending at 12:15 pm Wed Jan 1 (WAEOC)
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* SECC-WA <secc-wa-bounces at sea.sbe16.org> *On Behalf Of *K7CR via
> EAS-WA via SECC-WA
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 01, 2020 12:12 PM
> *To:* EAS Washington State <eas-wa at sbe16.org>
> *Cc:* SBE Chapter 16 Members and Others <sbe16-seattle at sbe16.org>
> *Subject:* [SECC-WA] [EAS-WA] SRN RELAY
>
>
>
> The State Relay Network (155.475 MHz) @ 1207 PM today – Relayed an RWT
> from the National Weather Service in Seattle.
>
>
>
> Who received this forwarded message FROM THE SRN?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Clay Freinwald*
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